Welcome to episode 61 of Lost in Immersion, your weekly 45-minute stream about innovation. As VR and AR veterans, we will discuss the latest news of the immersive industry. Hello guys! Once again, we are here together to talk about innovation and Fabien is the first to start. Hello! Yesterday was the yearly Apple conference WWC24 and there was a lot of announcements that we will talk about today. On my side, I will talk about the updates on the Vision Pro and the Vision OS that were announced yesterday. First, I think since the announcement, we were wondering how the deployment of the Vision Pro will be done on multiple countries. As of last February, it was only in the US and so it's expanding. Australia, Canada, France and Germany in July and China, Japan and Singapore end of June. It's interesting to see the choice of countries that they deploy in. Let's start with that. Do you have any comments or opinions about the countries that they chose? Maybe some insights on that. Seb? No, I would like to know if they will announce more things to make another buzz when the devices are available in this country. They announced, and I will let you talk about it, that they announced a lot of new functionality in their Vision OS. I'm not sure they're going to hit the market well if they do the same as what they did in the US. We saw a lot of devices being sent back. We'll see if they progress on the applications that are available and functionality that are available on the device and maybe the ease of use between users. Being able to share it more easily with someone else. See how it goes. I'm very surprised that Canada was not in the first list. Given the number of Apple Vision Pro that we can see on the marketplace, I thought it was available already. I guess most of them got them in the US and shipped them to Canada. The biggest question here is maybe all the people that were interested in this device already got it through the US. Is it too late or will there be another wave of users? I don't know. You would say it's the internet and social media, but when you are looking at it, you can see that people all around the world already got their hands on the Apple Vision Pro. You are a great example, Fabien, because you cut yours as well. Maybe the good numbers that we had at the launch in the US are not so true given that maybe most international users already bought them in the US. It will be very interesting to see the numbers in those countries. If it's a big fail, we'll know that they already reached the highest number of users through the US launch. That's a very good point. As you were saying, all the developers and geeks without access to someone in the US could maybe buy it now in these countries. Or maybe because it's Asia and Europe, it would be easier for them to buy it. For example, someone in Italy could go to France or Germany to buy one. We'll see. Okay. Now to the Vision OS feature. Vision OS 2 has a lot of updates. The first one interesting is WebXR that we talked about, we did a test a couple of weeks ago. For now, you had to go to developer settings and activate it to be able to use it. Now, it will be activated by default. I think that opens up a lot of very good opportunities for alternative app stores. If you don't want to go through the process of pushing an app through the app store, you can go through the WebXR way. Especially as the inside camera can be used in WebXR. That's very good. I didn't see any information about the outside camera AR. It seems to be only VR. I forgot the exact name, but VR WebXR session. It's a bit disappointing. Maybe they have good reasons for that. If we go again to other features. Since the beginning, they had travel mode for planes. Now, they support trains as well. Okay. The feature that allows you to get a virtual display of your Mac on the Vision Pro got improved. Now, you have a true 4K ultrawide virtual desktop. I saw something that's quite interesting. The dynamic foveation. Rendering the full resolution only where you are looking at. It's done on the Mac. I don't know if it's a mistake of the article I saw. Or if it's a special feature where they optimize the performances by doing the foveation on the Mac. I don't know. I thought it was quite interesting. They have new gestures. Hand up and tap to bring you home. You don't have to press on the digital crown anymore. You can do it with the hand. Hand flip and tap. Quick access to the control center. Battery level and so on. And finally, share play to look at pictures and videos. You have someone else in another Vision Pro. You can see the hologram floating beside you. You can look at the same pictures. I tested it with a friend here. I have to say it's quite... The presence can be felt, I think. I didn't test the share play, but we tested it on another app. I think because of the quality of the avatar. Of course, it's not like real presence. But I found it quite fun to do. And finally, it's a good transition to other subjects. Special pictures get an upgrade. If you have a picture that was taken flat. They can use AI to specialize it. That's it. A lot of small features add up. I think nothing groundbreaking, to be honest. Nice feature. Two 4K screens. That's what will make the user want to switch to the Vision Pro. To have a bigger screen without spending a lot of money. That makes a lot of sense. And for the gesture. We had this kind of gesture with the HoloLens from the start. Tapping your hand, having a menu on your wrist. I feel like the HoloLens way of doing things... It's not a gesture you do in your everyday life. Compared to just doing that. This is something you will do often. The headset will get confused. When you interact with something. I wonder if they went the right way. If they really studied all the different things. Like Microsoft seems to have done for the HoloLens. We'll see. It's a very good point. We are increasing the number of gestures through time. To make people use and learn. With a very slow learning curve. Because you have the pinch. I know back in the day, when we were using the HoloLens. People had a lot of trouble doing the pinch. They were just doing that and it was not working. Those gestures are coming in the main global use. Also the... I don't know how it's called. Zoom? This one was hard for some people as well. I guess all gestures need to be learned. Maybe they are just increasing. The games, we talked about what if last week. The gestures are brought from level to level. For people not to have too much information at once. We'll see if in two years. We'll have ten gestures. To interact with the Apple Vision Pro. My other point was. It's weird that Meta announced a new update as well. Last week. You can see they can't be alone announcing something. The other one is always taking some part of the bandwidth. We are living a real battle. Between those two. Google was supposed to be part of this. We don't know their part yet. Maybe it's a topic for next week. Hopefully the update on the quest will be rolled out. I don't know when. To have a better mixed reality experience. Something I forgot to mention last week. Even if there was a scan. Of my face when we purchased the Vision Pro. I don't think this is customized. I was using it in a bright room. I could see. Some of you might have this experience. When you have some light that comes through holes. Between the headset and the face. You see the reflection on the screens. That was a bit disturbing as well. You have to fit it perfectly. Back to what you were saying. Having a large display. Having the weight of the headset. It was a bit disturbing. Using it completely laying down. What if it's 45 minutes. I took a break in the middle. I was starting to feel the pressure. Not surprising. We can move on. We can move on to Seb. I wanted to follow up. On the conference. Apple intelligence. The way they want to implement it. On the OS system. They showcase functionality. The idea is to embed that directly in the OS. A bit like copilot. Everything will be run locally. You will be able to go through your email. Ask them to rewrite in a more professional way. They will provide hints on how to rewrite it. You will be able to generate emoji. They showcase an example. They want a T-Rex wearing a tutu. You can select it and send it. Same idea with images. You can prompt what you want. Select the kind of rendering. If you want something like a drawing. A sketch. It will generate your picture. Same idea with changing the face of someone. It will allow you to make a character. Based on their faces. When you do a sketch. You will be able to add some pictures. From a click inside the application. A lot of things. They announced a big upgrade. On Siri. On your mobile. You will be alerted. When it is time to pick up your daughter. At school or at an event. It will go through your message. On different platforms. Find out which event it is. What is the traffic. A lot of day-to-day functionality. It seems amazing. They do it on their mobile phone. It is more a pre-recorded video. Another option is to type to Siri. Instead of using your voice. You can type what you want Siri to search for. A lot of things. Quite impressive. Fabien or Guillaume? I have a lot of things to say. As usual with Apple. It is integrated. The transition for people. To see the new feature. To iOS 19. I am lost in the numbers. My guess. It is well integrated. The switch. For people to use it. A lot of things. Will be handled natively. The most power consuming. Operations will be handled. On a private server. They do a whole pitch. About how everything is private. We have to trust them. Finally. We discussed a lot. About the human pin. Or the rabbit. With Google. And Apple intelligence. They killed all these devices. They were already known as scam. There was not a lot to kill. Let's take a bet. The next step for Apple is to release glasses. The feature. On pictures is pretty scary. You take a picture of someone. You say the name. If it works well. It is really good. It is not new. You can filter by name. For my part. It is interesting to see. One year and a half. We are already in the full integration. Through Apple. It is going very fast. I hope the Apple integration. Is better than the Google one. It is really not. As good as we could have expected. There is no interconnection. You can ask YouTube. If you want. To identify. Your PDF attachment. It can't access it. If you download it. It can open the PDF. It is not that well integrated. One integration. They are supposed to support YouTube. I asked to create a playlist. You can't create content. Between what they are announcing. There are still some steps. We know Apple is the best. One funny part. I am surprised. The biggest feature. You can generate emojis. Maybe I am too old for this. The whole emoji stuff. It is generational stuff. Between the older ones. And the younger ones. There is a space between. If people are happy. To have millions of emojis. To search. Go for it. As children. Maybe it is their way. To get in contact. More contextualized. Like you. I find it funny. They went to different use cases. More functional. I don't want to go. And find the error. When something needs to happen. And provide an answer. In a matter of seconds. A much more useful use of the technology. We will have to see. I don't know if you are a user. This is a platform. For extensive research. You can see new players. Are well established. We will see if Apple and Google. Can be as efficient. Something funny. They did not announce links. A nice upgrade. I guess it will be compatible. You can use your Mac. You can interact with AI. I am not sure it will be able. To use the cameras. You were going to say. One thing. At the end. They dropped the name. For complex tasks. Siri will be able to reach out. For more details. More information. It is quite strange. It is a complete strategy. They just spend. 95% of the videos. You can talk to Siri. Interesting. There is a drama. Microsoft was not happy. They will be doing. Negotiations. There are partnerships. We will see. There are rumors. What map. On that level. For quite some time. There is drama going on. I wanted to talk. Today. It is a weather simulation. Precise. They are working. To be able. To simulate. How the rain. Will affect the city. Around the building. This kind of simulation. It is less. Power consuming. They use AI. And 3D rendering. To simulate. The impact. They can simulate. How the situation will look. Quite an impressive work. They announced. They will move forward. More and more. They announced. It was 1000 times faster. Impressive. I don't know. If it will be available. It is already used. For weather forecast. Guillaume? It is surprising. NVIDIA is going everywhere. They are gaining. A lot of power. I don't know if it is not too much. We will see if it is possible. To work on the software. We know. Microsoft is one of them. On the stock market. NVIDIA is one of the biggest. It is interesting. To see the curve. It is impressive. They are saying. All the things we see. Right from the platform. I don't know. Feedback on that? Not much. A real digital twin. It makes sense. As you said. It is crazy. The stock price. If one company. That is NVIDIA. There was a comic strip about this. It was. A banner for gold digging. Open AI, Microsoft, Google. They all had their shovel. The one selling the shovel was NVIDIA. He was having so much money. It is funny to see. The one benefiting from it. Is not always. The front end. He is the only one. On the market right now. Completely lost the battle. It is interesting to see. They have the whole market. As you mentioned. I wanted to talk about that. The co-pilot announcement. With AI integrated chips. They go different ways. Apple seems to go to another way. To use their own chips. Microsoft. They try to use a specific chipset. We will see. Which one works the best. An improvement. Something interesting. The co-pilot presentation. A lot of performance. Low usage of battery. Depending on your usage. Battery consumption. That is not part of the strategy. That was interesting. That is it for me. Two quick subjects. The first quick topic. McDonald's. Is releasing a metaverse. A new metaverse is coming. As usual. It is coming to Singapore. All the new metaverses. Are coming in Asia. They didn't let the ball down. They are working on metaverses. It seems to work there. What it is doing. It is a free app. You can create new McDonald's meals. One thing I found interesting. They have their own restaurant. If you are catching the thing. They are making a market analysis. Trying to see what is the best. Very smart from their part. We will see what can be issued. Metaverses is not dead. We will see if we can get our end. In the near future. If you want to say something first. If you want to be picky. About the wording. Metaverse has a lot of meanings. It should be something open. In the McDonald's app. It is closed. It is cool to see. Everything that comes from. Second life. Roblox. It is used by brands all over the world. Pretty nice move. One of the latest definitions. Metaverse. Micro metaverse. You have all the keys. You can spend money. You can interact. We are still limited. To create. A whole world. With millions of users. We have to do what we can. You are right. We are happy with this app. We are taking what is coming. It would be better. If it was on a global market. We can forget about this. For quite some time. Seb? Metaverse. It is a multiplayer game. It is purely marketing. That is about it for me. I would rather prefer. To teach people things. You can get free meals. For one year. I would be happy to eat at McDonald's. Last topic. It is about a thesis. It is about visualizing. Brain connection in VR. It is interesting to experiment. You can download it. It is Unity based. ... ... I will give you the link. In the description. That is it. Interesting. Anything more to add? We said we would be quick. It is longer than expected. Any last words? See you next week. See you. Thank you.
